"The Future of the Lithium market.
10. Of notice was a presentation by Altair Nano "Aplications for advance batteries and grid storage". There is an estimated demand for 40 000 MW of "fast"storage capacity worldwide at the moment. It is not a straight forward conversion, but with 24 kWh battery in Nissan Leaf this capacity will translate into magnitude of equivalent 1.7 million electric cars. Announcements from Panasonic, EnerDell and Mitsubishi showed that grid applications are adopting Lithium technology as well. cost will be the driving factor as well here."
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GET PAID TO PLUG IN
Posted: Friday, February 19, 2010 6:42 PM by Alan Boyle
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A Toyota Scion converted to all-electric power is plugged into California's electrical grid during a demonstration at the annual meeting of the American Association for the Advancement of Science in San Diego. |
Someday, someone will pay you to hook your car into the electrical grid. It's one of those almost-a-sure-thing business opportunities enabled by the expected rise of plug-in vehicles. But will the payoff be worth the cost? That's where the calculations get a little complicated.
Experts on the future of the electrical grid and plug-in electric cars came together this week in San Diego at the annual meeting of the American Association for the Advancement of Science to discuss their common interests.
It's a concept that utilities are willing to shell out money to support, said Ken Huber, senior technology and education principal at Pennsylvania-based PJM Interconnection.
PJM coordinates power transmission for a region that takes in all or part of 13 states and the District of Columbia. One of the big challenges for companies like PJM is to keep the load on the regional grids as stable as possible. Too much of a load is bad, potentially leading to brownouts. Too little of a load can also be bad, especially as electric utilities move toward renewable sources such as wind and solar energy.
To keep its regional grid stable, PJM needs to have battery storage capability equal to 1 percent of its peak load. Since PJM's peak is around 100,000 megawatts, "we have 1,000 megawatts moving up and down," Huber explained.
So here's where your future electric car enters the picture: PJM is currently paying battery providers somewhere around $25 to $35 per megawatt-hour to have that electrical storage available. If you have a plugged-in car just sitting idle, PJM would love to have a system that could take a little bit of the power out of your car battery during peak times, and send it back out to your battery during off-peak hours.
"It has a very, very high value to the grid," Huber said.
The conversion also required the addition of a power control box that could transmit and receive data about the battery's state as well as the electric company's power requirements over a secure Internet connection. After all, the last thing you want is to have somebody hack into your car.
Three or four cars are hardly worth developing a system for, but for the University of Delaware test, the AES power company served as an aggregator for battery capacity. The payment to the customer - in this case, the University of Delaware - was based on how much capacity the cars' batteries held (19 kilowatt-hours), and how long the car was plugged in (on average, 21.5 hours a day).
The payments typically amounted to $300 per month per car, said Willett Kempton, senior policy scientist at the University of Delaware's Center for Energy and Environmental Policy.
"Right now, because batteries are expensive, the value is less than the cost," Kempton acknowledged.
You'd have to consider other benefits - for example, the fact that you could charge up your eBox for a 150-mile trip for just a couple of dollars, which is less than the price for a gallon of gasoline.
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The Chevy Volt goes on display at the Washington Auto Show. |
Although converted plug-ins such as AC Propulsion's eBox are available now, most people will probably wait to make their plug-in purchase until they get a look at mass-market vehicles such as the Chevy Volt (a gas-electric hybrid) and the Nissan Leaf (which is all-electric). Both those models should be available starting late this year.
It's too early to judge just how much impact plug-in cars will have, particularly when it comes to vehicle-to-grid technology. But if a million electric vehicles hit the streets in the next five years, as President Barack Obama has suggested, something will have to be done to accommodate that extra load on the grid, Huber said. That could take the form of demand-sensitive pricing for electricity - which would make V2G more attractive.
"I don't believe we're going to be in the situation we're in today for very much longer," Huber said.
"We call the battery the 'fifth passenger' sometimes, because we take such good care of it," Posawatz told me.
As more plug-ins are sold, more and more batteries will be available to store and eventually use the energy that's generated by solar and wind. "We're going to make this asset available to plug in all the time to collect the energy created by this green technology," Posawatz said.
GM is working on a number of initiatives for smart charging and automatic software upgrades, including technologies that take advantage of the automaker's OnStar service. But it will be a while before vehicle-to-grid technology is built into the Volt, Posawatz said. "Two-way energy transfer is several years out," he told me.
It's more likely that car owners will use their own "smarts," once cars like the Volt have been around for a while. Some might sign up for a V2G upgrade from the utility, like the system pioneered by the MAGIC Consortium. Others might install solar panels at home and use their plugged-in car as a storage device for home-brewed electricity.
In the long run, car owners might even save their old plug-in batteries to store more power at home. "We believe the battery will have a life outside the car," Posawatz said.
But pretty much everyone agrees that the most important milestone on the road to plug-in paradise will be cheaper batteries. Right now, the batteries for plug-in cars cost $1,000 or more per kilowatt-hour - which makes the plug-ins much more expensive than their petroleum-fueled counterparts. The battery cost is so significant that the National Research Council concluded it would take decades for the benefits of plug-ins to outweigh the costs.
"That's the biggest challenge," Posawatz acknowledged. "How can we quickly move down the cost curve and get the technological advances going? Certainly the automotive industry does not move as quickly as the telecommunications industry. ... Can we make that kind of progress on a shorter time scale?"
What do you think? Is there a plug-in payoff in your future, or are biofuels the way to go? Feel free to weigh in with your comments below.
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Super Vehicle to Grid (Super V2G) Cars as Powerful Power Plants!
Second generation V2G automobiles might be able to provide as much as 25 kW using a two way plug. It has been estimated that such vehicles might earn as much as $3,000 per year.
Chava is developing what could become Third generation V2G vehicles. Steven Letendre, a V2G analyst at Green Mountain College, has termed our work Super V2G.
Future cars and trucks will be able to provide up to 150 kW with a wireless connection to suitably equipped parking spaces. Payments to owners may very well be sufficient to pay for the vehicle.
Chava breakthroughs may make possible the elimination of the need for batteries of every variety. As a harbinger of the future, an early MagGen™ is expected to first demonstrate the ability to replace the need to plug-in a plug-in hybrid. Two kilowatts is all the power that can be taken from a typical wall socket. A pair of one kilowatt MagGens might demonstrate a compact, inexpensive, capability to end the need to plug-in. This will relieve the concern that plug-in electric and hybrid vehicles would depend on power generated using fossil or nuclear fuel.
A SPICE™ (Self Powered Internal Combustion Engine), in hybrid cars and trucks can run when parked, spinning a generator. Fueled by small quantities of ordinary water, an ECHO™ (Energy from Collapsing Hydrogen Orbits) fueled SPICE is one of two Super V2G systems presently on the Chava horizon.
MagGen powered cars are expected to be capable of initially generating at least 75 kW and later 100 kW. In the case of luxury cars, trucks and buses 150 kW will prove practical. MagGen is potentially a second Chava Super V2G system.
A substantial number of vehicles powered by MagGen, or its water sipping counterpart, an ECHO fueled SPICE, in a parking area or garage - will transform the array of parked vehicles into a multi-megawatt power plant.
For the steps involved in making this happen, see: http://www.aesopinstitute.org
For more about ECHO, SPICE and MagGen, see the Chava website. Look under: how?
The economics are likely to prove compelling. Until now, car ownership has been an expense. Vehicle to Grid power will change that dramatically. Doubtless, when millions of cars and trucks are selling power to the grid, the price per kilowatt paid will gradually decline. However, it still seems likely that the cost of many vehicles might be paid for by utilities. The parked cars, trucks and buses, each become decentralized power plants - a rapid, cost-effective alternative to the many tough and costly environmental challenges of constructing new coal burning and nuclear power generation facilities.
Utilities, as well as vehicle manufacturers, will have a unique opportunity to lead the nation and the world into a dramatic reduction in the need for oil.
Imagine a 24/7 development program.
The positive economic impact can hardly be exaggerated.
ECHO is our name for fractional Hydrogen. BlackLight Power, a competitor, is the subject of a comprehensive article: “Newly Discovered Hydrinos can Provide Cheap Power for the World”, at: http://www.american-reporter.com
The story is really about fractional Hydrogen.
Two laboratories have validated this hard to believe technology. More, including national labs, should do the experiments.
Magnetic generators are even harder to believe. “We could utilize magnetism as an energy source” – Werner Heisenberg
In 1926 Hans Coler demonstrated a magnetic generator, tapping a new source of energy, to German University professors. Heisenberg, a physicist awarded a Nobel Prize, made the above statement the following year. In 1937 a 6 kilowatt version was shown. The German navy later supported the work. After WWII, Coler was the subject of a Report by British Intelligence. It was declassified in 1980 and is available on the web.
Here again independent and national laboratories must validate the technology before it will be believed by anyone with scientific training.
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